| Subject: | Re: jared |
| Date: | Wed, 17 May 2000 14:44:25 -0500 |
| From: | Doug Renselle <NOFLAMEqtx{at}earthlink{dot}netNOSPAM> |
| Organization: | Quantonics |
| To: | Jared <noflames@flameproof.com> |
| References: | 1 |
| (Jared's original comment appears immediately preceding Doug's response. We did minor editorial modification to Jared's post, including color emphasis, minor spelling corrections, and paragraph formatting. We substitute Pirsig's 'Intellect' and 'Social' levels of Static Patterns of Value (SPoV), for Jared's possibly misleading 'intellectualism,' and 'socialism') |
Jared wrote:
Intellect [Pirsigean SPoV] is more efficient than social [Pirsigean SPoV] because evolution occurs more rapidly within a given space. However, we need both social and intellect if you are going to technologically advance. For instance, populating [stellar] space will require rule of social, but where we debate precedence of the precepts that would be intellect.
The human organism is going through a phase to contribute to its survivability when the sun turns into a red giant. Nature is still experimenting with how social and intellect are going to function concomitantly. Social is like an asteroid going in one direction with a fierce momentum. Intellect diverts that course according to its own precept. In other words, social sees one thing and continues to look in that same direction. There are many more intellectuals than we give credit to but most are lost in this social [pattern of value]. Intellect awakens itself but recognizing its slumber thus perpetuating a broader horizon from social's [limited] dimensions to intellect's [vaster] dimensions.
Of course, while other organisms change and retain the movement in their past they will naturally have a higher likelihood to overcome us. (Intellect should be able to stay ahead of 'local' organisms. Whether it will be able to withstand pressures from outside is yet to be seen.)
While too much intellect despises mass protection, intellect exposes the membrane for healing in certain areas. Just like the brain dislikes the immune system getting into the nervous system and exposing membrane social also is uneasy. But intellect fights the diseases that can destroy the whole nervous system.
Comment on your review of Philistine and Genius, page 32.
Jared.
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Jared, Thanks for commenting as we requested! Have you read Pirsig? Have you read his Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (1974), and his Lila (1991)? Your words above paraphrase much of what Pirsig has to say. If you have not read his works, I suggest you give him a go. Try ZMM first. You will hear him stating your position almost same, but in his different words. I highlighted text which resonates well with Pirsig. (Most of it. :) I agree almost completely with your assessment. Excellent! Aretê! Mtty, Jared, Doug. |
By Robert M. Pirsig, in 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance,'
p. 188, Bantam (paperback), 28th edition, 1982.
Edited 18May2000, PDR